it will be guys like jeb bush, paul ryan, marco rubio -- much more formidable gop candidates. i'm not ready to say, hey, let's lay down our swords and let hillary have this one. i don't think we're ready for that. >> what should the republican party be doing now or in the years to come to make sure they can compete? regardless if it's hillary clinton or somebody else. >> that's a good question, ted. honestly, the bigger issue has nothing to do with the name at the top of the ballot but what the parties stand for. the republican party's economic message, one i inherently know is better, is superior, but it's sold on abstract and theoreticalal terms, is not applying to middle class, everyday americans when aligned against policies that are designed to say, here's how i'm going to help you on x, y, and z, from auto bailouts to birth control. it's just not stacking up right now. we have to explain free market capitalism in more tangible terms to everyday americans. >> i've got to argue with my buddy. i just have to challenge will on this. i'm not really sure if their economic poli